[daveh]

As some of you old timers would know I've had my bike for a few years now,
finally decided to learn to service the bugger myself.
Downloaed the manual, I lost the one Helz sent me in the great crash of 07.
So, I've opened me "bible" to the correct page, it says I need a special tool for the filter, is this true, and should I be replacing the o-ring or washer on the sump plug each time I do so.
Dave

[MikeY]

Dave,
You will need a simple (oil filter removal) tool that fits over the front of the oil filter and has a hex bolt-head in the centre you use to turn the filter off. Basically, the tool is like a disc whose edges are folded over so they slip onto the flats of the filter. Suzuki will sell you one, though you might a save a couple of quid on ebay.
Yup to swapping the crush washer under the sump plug. Not expensive, buy a small handful in one go then you've always got one if you want to drop the oil for any reason.
Don't over tighten the sump plug!!! better to have it just pinched up and risk a dribble than strip the darn thing which is very easily done....
If its all clean and with a new washer, it won't leak and it need not be very tight, just light finger pressure on the socket to nip it up.
Oh, and do not use the filter removal to tool to put the new one on...just spin it on and nip it up by hand. Again, if its all clean and has new rubber o ring, it won't leak done up by hand.
Cheers!
Mike

[Kingman]

... and put a little oil with your finger on the rubber before you put the new filter on.

This is the tool:

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[Hooli]

The tool is 68mm if i remember right, you can use any filter wrench but the proper one makes life a lot easier.

[popwud]

Sump plug washer, no need to replace every time, just tighten to correct torque...replace oil filter every other oil change.

[gsxbarmy]

popwud, on 09 March 2010 - 10:10 AM, said:

Sump plug washer, no need to replace every time, .

Sorry must disagree, if you don't replace but still tighten to the same torque there is a higher risk of cracking your oil pan. The crushing of the washer takes this into account more

For the sake of 60p for a sump plug washer, personally i don't think it worth taking the chance or not changing, but hey everyone to their own, what's right for one, isn't necessarily right for another.

[Gnome]

Yep - with Barmy 110% on this one, change the crush washer EVERY time, lot cheaper than a new sump (even if they are only made of brittle toffee)

.GNOME.

[BanditsHigh]

Or anneal the crush washer by heating to cherry red and allow to cool ... never changed a washer on a sump bolt and never had a problem

All the best ... Barry

[Hooli]

BanditsHigh, on 09 March 2010 - 03:56 PM, said:

Or anneal the crush washer by heating to cherry red and allow to cool ... never changed a washer on a sump bolt and never had a problem

All the best ... Barry

It'll melt. they are ali, your thinking of copper ones.

[daveh]

Thank you gentlemen, of to the shop for the special tool this weekend.
Dave

[Dandan]

My advice to you would be to change the filter every time you change your oil. Most the guys on the forum including myself change the oil & filter every 6.000ks.
Happy biking
Dan.

[tigger]

I use one of these pliers it does the job very well.

I've also just foun a place that sells genuine Suzuki Oil filters £7.95 delivered and they sell the sump bolts complete with washers @ £3.95 each. Not sure about that being cheap for a bolt but they are the magnetic ones.

Do my oil and filter every 3,000 miles and (touch wood) it has never leaked a drop or used any serious amount.

www.bikedevils.co.uk for the oil filter if anyone's interested.

Tigger

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[theo]

If your planning to do the servicing yourself from now the specialist filter tools are worth every penny,
makes life easier removing said filter, as for the crush washer, consensus says your meant to change them
every time but like most things, there are those who do and those who don't, your choice.
.
A lot of places sell after market filters but me personally I ALWAYS use genuine Suzuki filters, at least
you know when you get the 25 miles home it's gonna fit.

[Hooli]

I use champion K301 filters, because halfrauds sell them next to their oil. It's not listed in their fittings guide though, so gotta remember the number.

[Antony_James]

Might actually invest in one of them filter tools ...



bastard took me just shy of 2 hours to budge that with just a hammer an screwy haha

[gsxbarmy]

Aj - tip - don't use a hammer and screwdriver to put the new one on mate, it might (possibly) leak

[Gixxer]

HAHAHA AJ that is classic! Looks like an old Datsun Pulsar filter I saw once!

This post has been edited by Gixxer: 28 July 2010 - 11:36 PM

[TYRUSS]

1) buy a K&N oil filter (it has a HEX nut on the end) no need for a special tool
2) at 140,000k's I have lost count of the number of oil changes I have done, The bike still has the original crush washer (I believe in mechanical sypathy DONT DO IT UP TOO TIGHT)
3) if you have to (saves buying the tool if you get a K&N oil filter) PUNCH a screw driver through it and un-do
4) NO I dont have any oil leaks

[Hooli]

Buy the tool AJ, mine cost about £3.50

[Gixxer]

Hooli, on 29 July 2010 - 10:03 PM, said:

Buy the tool AJ, mine cost about £3.50

While your at it .. buy the crush washer