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#1 RetroRod

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 10:03 AM

Now fellow owners, ain't newbies a PITA!! :D

I sealed the deal today on a great looking 1400 with just 5000km on the clock. I'm feeling good. Better still, its located interstate and so I get to enjoy a nice long ride home.

I am aware that these bikes have, IMHO, an unsightly large oil cooler up front. Notwithstanding a chromed cover may be purchased for them, I still think they stick out like the proverbial dog's .........

I presume, rather than know, Suzuki fitted this as a one size fits all, whether the engine would need it or not, Engineers would have to make some assumptions including the potential of our American friends riding a 1400, flat out, across Death Valley in the height of summer.

I have looked at some compact aftermarket coolers from Setrab, here:

http://www.jagg.com/oilcoolers.html

These guys make nice coolers and I imagined something 8 x 5 or 9 x 6 sitting up front instead of that 14 x something Goliath we have now.

I am conscious of the hot summer here in Qld, but even by comparison with some other big Jap bikes, I've seen, this oil cooler looks overdone? The 1400 engine is not one that you need to wring to get it working, unlike some other high revvers out there.

So, has anyone in Oz dumped the 1400 cooler for something smaller. (Newbie) RR
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Posted 21 November 2010 - 10:09 AM

Don't limit to Oz RR - replacement oil coolers from Zooki are mega bucks, a smaller compact version is available and cheaper from HEL which does exactly the same job and is the replacement of choice once (if) the oil cooler decides to let go (as they do have their weak points)

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 10:27 AM

I have been looking at oil cooler , as the one i have on the bike is bent out of shape .
ebay 150512195187 any help on this ? has any one got one fitted ? . Might pick one up in the uk next year on holidays .. Pedro ..

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 10:38 AM

Don't limit to Oz RR - replacement oil coolers from Zooki are mega bucks, a smaller compact version is available and cheaper from HEL which does exactly the same job and is the replacement of choice once (if) the oil cooler decides to let go (as they do have their weak points)

HEL Oil Cooler


How resourceful are you. Thanks.

This looks way smaller than the original, you think so too?? RR
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Posted 21 November 2010 - 10:38 AM

Show us the bike RR.............. pics or it didnt happen.........Posted Image

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 10:38 AM

I fitted one of these to the K2. http://cgi.ebay.com....=item1c1715e119

Worked a treat but didn't survive this.

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 10:44 AM

Show us the bike RR.............. pics or it didnt happen.........Posted Image

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Aw, shucks, now I'm going all shy!!

Well, OK. See if this works. RR

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 10:57 AM


Show us the bike RR.............. pics or it didnt happen.........Posted Image

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Aw, shucks, now I'm going all shy!!

Well, OK. See if this works. RR


I know this is off topic and heresy here, but you really must acknowledge that the poms make a good motorcycle: RR

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 04:58 PM


Don't limit to Oz RR - replacement oil coolers from Zooki are mega bucks, a smaller compact version is available and cheaper from HEL which does exactly the same job and is the replacement of choice once (if) the oil cooler decides to let go (as they do have their weak points)

HEL Oil Cooler


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This looks way smaller than the original, you think so too?? RR


It is smaller, much more compact and if I had one fitted to my 14 I'd post a piccie but don't - I daresay someone in the UK who has one fitted will be along soon an put up a piccie of theirs.

It's a very neat piece of kit and HEL is a good make (many use their brake/clutch lines as well)

Nice pic of your 14 by the way, but rather than worry about the size of the oil coller, personally I'd junk the cannon you have as an exhaust and fit an OE can - saves loads of weight!

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 07:00 PM

pics as requested

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 07:33 PM

Welcome bud - personally I reckon the cooler is ok. Got this cover locally.

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 08:36 PM

I looked at all sorts of alternatives for an oil cooler. The best one I came up with like everyone else is the HEL.
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Posted 21 November 2010 - 09:29 PM

Big beefy oil cooler is good, makes the bike look big. If you want something tiny buy a Cb500 ;)

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 11:06 PM

Dont know wot I'm talkin' about here but.............Posted Image I assumed that Suzuki engineers designed that cooler, and its size......... to ensure optimum performance regards the amount of cooling required based on the amount of fluid cycled thru it under what they considered 'extreme' conditions.........

......... and I assume they never considered the outreaches of the USA as the 14 never got to the states anyway...............so

wide channels to cater for thicker oil in colder climates.... overall size and number of tubes' to pump the most oil through possible in the hotter climates...........therefore....

if one was to replace with a smaller version/ less tubes/ smaller air surface etc,etc,........are we not putting the 14's ability at risk, and would it be covered under any warranty, regardless of the good name/brand of the replacement cooler (such as HEL )

Just a question........educate me by all means

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 11:49 PM

you are quite right. i am going to be making an oil cooler for my bike in a few weeks, and it has taken a while for me to find a suitable core. the standard oil cooler on the bike, is very small beleive it or not, and is very efficient. the fin pitch and height makes for a very effective cooler. its also very light so wont suffer too badly from heat soak.

i say small, what that translates to is thin, the front to back dimension. i have had to get a core that is almost twice as thick to get the same proposed cooling effect.

and remember the coolers from hel/setrab/serck-marston etc are aimed at cars, as gearbox/powersteering coolers. or to be used as an addition where there is no standard oil cooler.... :)

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Posted 22 November 2010 - 04:05 AM

Personally I wouldnt go changing the oil cooler ..

It is big but after 30 seconds you dont see it any more.. seriously... and Suzuki put it there for a reason

Fit one of those aftermarket screens - tidies it up a bit and protects it.

Live with it for a few weeks and it will start to grow on you

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Posted 22 November 2010 - 06:30 AM

Ive got a Hel cooler and they do have a smaller surface area but are thicker to make up for it.

If i had a standard cooler, the last thing i would do is put a stainless cover on to block a lot of air flow. :)
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Posted 22 November 2010 - 06:38 AM

Ive got a Hel cooler and they do have a smaller surface area but are thicker to make up for it.

If i had a standard cooler, the last thing i would do is put a stainless cover on to block a lot of air flow. :)


Agree SF but I think it depends on the oil cooler cover one chooses - those like the Beowulf cover give quite a good air flow still whilst still protecting the core - didn't find that much difference in the temperature the oil ran at after fitting a Beowulf one to mine.
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Posted 22 November 2010 - 08:38 AM

Welcome bud - personally I reckon the cooler is ok. Got this cover locally.


I'd appreciate knowing the source of this nice bit of gear. RR
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Posted 22 November 2010 - 08:41 AM

Thank you all for inputs.

Yes, I've concluded that Suzuki use this large oil cooler to assist in the heat management on this engine. I will therefore leave the thing alone and buy a nice chromed cover for it.RR
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